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Pseudo-profundity, Jargon and Grandiloquence

I've been doing a lot of reading recently and sometimes wonder at the author(s) sanity.

 

Some of the news articles on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. are so obviously written with a conclusion in mind, backed up by furiously "spinning facts", that it's hard to believe that any objective person would give credence to the pieces.  

 

Less "biased" are the articles on BBC, Daily Mail (UK) and sometimes on CBC and RT.

 

I like to read a variety of sources.  When they all point to the same perspective, then I find it more "believable" - but don't necessarily accept it at face value.

 

Particularly when the articles are "predictive" rather than based on events that have already occurred, I wonder why the authors think the readers should believe the author's "crystal balls".

 

Authors write for a multiplicity of reasons.

 

 

They want to "spin" something for the political candidate or a policy they favor.

 

They want to "impress" an audience with their "wisdom" and "profound insight" into the human psyche.

 

They believe in the "gobblegook that they spew forth" and want others to believe it too.

 

and more I'm sure...

 

So I did a little research this morning while sitting "gingerly" at my desk, with my temporary good friends Percocet, Motrin and Local Pain Med OnQ Catheter which arrived in my life Thursday afternoon following surgery - perhaps not the best day for objective research - but nevertheless, I'm going to share my perspective.

 

I see this behavior not just in the news, but elsewhere in "life in general", whether it's self proclaimed "gurus", or even sometimes here in the 'Rain.

 

Typically these "thoughts" are presented with somewhat obscure reasoning, sometimes including "jargon" understandable to the author (who holds the definition close to their chest), and presents a variety of seemingly unrelated statements that leap to a conclusion, and contain comments if their article refers to others as the "others" being "ill informed" and "less wise" than the pundit.

 

So, I found some interesting definitions that describe this behavior, much of which I found at this article by Stephen Law.

 

Pseudo-Profundity

 

Pseudo-profundity is the art of sounding profound while talking tosh (that's British for BS). Unlike the art of actually being profound, the art of sounding profound is not particularly difficult to master.

 

Jargon

 

Jargon can further enhance the illusion of profundity. Make up some words that appear to have meanings similar to those of certain well-known terms, but that differ in some never-fully-explained way.

 

Grandiloquence

 

A lofty, pompous, or bombastic style or manner 

 

Deepity

 

A deepity involves saying something with two meanings – one trivially true, the other profound-sounding but false or nonsensical.

 

Truism

 

A statement that is obviously true and says nothing new or interesting.

 

Pseudo-profundity’s greatest enemy is clarity. One of the most effective methods of disarming it is to translate what is said into clear, plain English.

 

Such a translation will typically reveal that what was said one of three things: (i) an obvious falsehood, (ii) nonsense, or (iii) a truism.

 

Those who spout it are often aware, at some level, that clarity is likely to unmask them, and will probably resist your attempts to rephrase what they mean in clear and unambiguous terms.

 

They will almost certainly accuse you of a crude misunderstanding or “Moving The Goalposts”.

 

Of course, they still won’t explain clearly what they do mean.

 

They’ll just keep giving you the run around by changing the subject, erecting smokescreens, accusing you of further misunderstandings, and so on.

 

My approach is to call them on it when I see it.  They are fooling themselves.

 

 

Others applaud them for their "oh so profound" remarks, particularly if the remarks appear to support the readers beliefs.

 

Others respond with anger, particularly if the remarks criticize the readers beliefs, or personally attack the reader.

 

I believe the best way to expose and discredit these "Pseudo-Profound Authors" is to meet them head on.  

 

I'm always open to being convinced that what they have written is, after all, accurate, but not if it's littered with jargon known only to themselves, disjointed "arguments" that result in unrelated conclusions, personal attacks on beliefs and/or individuals, and articles rife with "negativity" - the "oh woe is me syndrome" and "these villains, liars, etc. are doing xyz" therefore the "sky is falling".

 

I don't know what drives the behavior, but I do know it's not useful - to anyone.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

What say you?

 

And now it's time for my next Percocet!

 

 

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If you are considering a Traditional or Short Sale of your home in Phoenix, Scottsdale or any location in Maricopa County Arizona, you owe it to yourself to talk with the BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty to determine whether Tony and Suzanne Marriott are the best real estate Brokers in the Phoenix and Scottsdale metropolitan area to help you with the Successful Sale of your home.

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Comments

Well, you mind altering mood is doing a great job of using the King's English. But what worries me with the surgery and pills that you might wake up in high dudgeon.

Posted by Joe Pryor, REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties (The Virtual Real Estate Team) over 2 years ago

Hahahha ... I have another word for it ... Bull Crap! 

Another is ... blowing smoke up one's ass-tro backside. 

I hope that you feel better soon.  

Posted by Kathleen Daniels, San Jose Homes for Sale-Probate & Trust Specialist (KD Realty - 408.972.1822) over 2 years ago

Good morning Tony,

Good to see you hen pecking away and semi enjoying the meds.

It would be nice if they aired "Just the facts Ma'am" and just think Joe Friday never said this in an episode!

Make yourself an astonishing day.

Posted by Raymond E. Camp, Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester (Howard Hanna Real Estate Services) over 2 years ago

I feel so enlightened and even emboldened to use some of these new words...pseudo-profundity, grandil...oh never mind...I will stick with BS! Get better!

Posted by Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty, Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County (Bucci Realty, Inc.) over 2 years ago

I don't know Joe Pryor - Colonoscopy the previous week (in case anything else needed to be addressed during Thursdays surgery) plus all the other poking and prodding since July 2014 seems like I just "go with the flow" these days!  Apart from the pain (8 out of 10) when transitioning from lying down to sitting to standing things are going fairly well - just have to make sure I don't run out of meds!! 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Thanks for the good wishes Kathleen Daniels - always good to hear from you, and Mr Crappy when he's around - although I have been told I won't see him for 2 or 3 days!! 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

That would keep it simple Raymond E. Camp - thanks for stopping by!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Be my guest Gary L. Waters, Broker Owner, Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC !

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

When I see something like this, I generally move along after reading a paragraph.

Posted by Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker, Bristow, VA (Long and Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA) over 2 years ago

I say keep up the Percocet!!!   Like Gary L. Waters, Broker Owner, Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC I would like to try using some of these more-than-4 -letter words to enhance my standing however,  I don't think I could remember them.  That said, I'll stick with my standard reply "That's B___ S___! 

BTW- what ever happened to the News Departments  just reporting the news AFTER it has happened rather than creating it?  

Posted by Kathy Streib, Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224 (Room Service Home Staging) over 2 years ago

                                    Thank you Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers 

Posted by Kathy Streib, Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224 (Room Service Home Staging) over 2 years ago

I'm so disgusted with the political rhetoric and vitriol currently, that I find it difficult to turn on the television.  Like you, I get my information from a variety of sources.  I also like the BBC.  And, I like Reuters.

Posted by Myrl Jeffcoat, Greater Sacramento Real Estate Agent (GreatWest Realty) over 2 years ago

Good morning Tony.  One would think it is going to be over in a few days.  No sir, the loser will then start another round, and the drama continues..... Sigh

Posted by James Dray, Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results (Fathom Realty) over 2 years ago

Good morning tony,

I hope you are feeling better! I too am so disgusted with all the political rhetoric being thrown around I refuse to watch TV. I get my information from BBC, Reuters etc. Love the new words but will probably stick with my stand by Bull S---!

Posted by Dorie Dillard CRS GRI ABR, Serving Buyers & Sellers in NW Austin Real Estate (Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ 512.750.6899) over 2 years ago

I find it somewhat fascinating Chris Ann Cleland - but then again I have found the past few months in the news "entertaining"!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

They have been exposed for what they really are Kathy Streib - and they don't like that one  bit!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Thank you Kathy Streib - we are honored!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I'll have to check Reuters more often Myrl Jeffcoat - thanks for the reminder!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

No end in sight James Dray - it twists, it turns...

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Hi Dorie Dillard - getting there I think except for one area that is still a real pain and likes to bleed for no apparent reason.  We cut the cord years ago so only see the "main stream media" online....

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I can see why Kathy chose your blog post this week...great stuff!

Posted by Kristin Johnston - REALTOR®, Giving Back With Each Home Sold! (RE/MAX Realty Center ) over 2 years ago

Why thank you Kristin Johnston, Waukesha County Realtor 414-254-6647 !

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I am not big on 'fluff'.  Always been a 'meat and potato' man and that can be applied across the board not just at the dinner table.  Mark

Posted by Mark Don McInnes, Sandpoint, North Idaho Real Estate - 208-255.6227 over 2 years ago

Agreed Mark Don McInnes, Sandpoint !

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Thankfully, Kathy picked this one or I would have missed seeing gobbledygook used in a sentence.  Great post and I hope a speedy recovery is on the horizon.  Although, the Percocet didn't stop you from writing a great blog post.

Posted by Chris Lima, Local or Global-Allow me to open doors for you. (Atlantic Shores Realty Expertise) over 2 years ago

Hi Tony(and Suzanne too) -- without any spewing gobbledygook(as I hear it's highly contagious) -- get well soon.   

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393 over 2 years ago

Hope you are on the mend quickly. Perhaps the media should be on percocet - they might report with less pseudo-profundity, grandiloquence and jargon.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude (Solutions Real Estate ) over 2 years ago

You're so right. I would imagine it's hard not to do reporting this way. When I write a blog post or article, I already know what conclusion I'm writing to, I would think reporting is the same way.....so I don't have any interest in doing it. 

Posted by Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner, Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395 (Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395) over 2 years ago

I loved it the other day when Gingrich came right out and told Kelly she wasn't reporting news, she was just airing her own opinions. He said that's not journalism, and he's right. Very few are real journalists these days.

Posted by Marte Cliff, Your real estate writer (Marte Cliff Copywriting) over 2 years ago

Hope you are feeling better...would confess one Percoset would not leave me coherent enough to put two words together !

Posted by Sally K. & David L. Hanson, WI Realtors - Luxury - Divorce (EXP Realty 414-525-0563) over 2 years ago

You should write in a medicated state more often. LOL

That's not to say that your usual posts arent awesome.

Now I've made a terrible mess.

Let's just say I love this post.....I agree....I'm sick of all the crap we are being fed by media....nicely done!

Posted by Sharon Tara, New Hampshire Home Stager (Sharon Tara Transformations) over 2 years ago

It's all chicanery to me.  Plus deceit, delusion, flimflam, and gibberish.  Can't wait for it to all be over (with a short respite before it starts all over again!)

Posted by Margaret Goss, Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate (Baird & Warner Real Estate) over 2 years ago

I don't even want to get started with the BS!!!  It's been such a circus and it will all be over soon and then they'll start all over again......journalism?  Not what I learned in school.

Posted by Anna Banana Kruchten CRB, CRS 602-380-4886, Arizona's Top Banana! (Phoenix Property Shoppe) over 2 years ago

Did I miss something??  Surgery?  Not sure who had it, but get well soon Tony or Suzanne.

My son did a video entitled Clap Trap  some years ago, and your post reminds me of that.  And I think it would be excellent to watch it after the Perocet kicked in.  LOL  Enjoy!

Great Styx song! 

 

Posted by Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED (RETIRED / State License is Inactive) over 2 years ago

Good morning Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, I stopped watching/listening/reading the news, it's a circus which will not end on November 8th. Hope you feel better soon!

Posted by Beth Atalay, Cam Realty of Clermont FL (Cam Realty and Property Management) over 2 years ago

Percocet seems to let it all hang out Chris Lima - always good to hear from you - thanks for stopping by with a comment!

 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

It is indeed contagious Michael Jacobs - and fumble fingers here managed to mispell the word too!! 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Back to see the surgeon this morning Jeff Dowler - hopefully all will look good to him.  I'll suggest the scrips for the media - that ought to get him chuckling!!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Agreed Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner - that's the difference between a commentator and a reporter.  The former admits they have a position to present, while the latter is suppposed to look at the facts and report them without spin...

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I saw that clip on the internet Marte Cliff - hilarious comments about "defensiveness" and "anger issues" from Kelly - and it was very clear that it wasn't Newt who had them, regardless of her attempt to spin it that way.  ROFL!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I'm taking two at a time every four hours Sally K. & David L. Hanson - and I have gained a chauffeuse named Suzanne! 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

That had occurred to me too Sharon Tara - although I don't think my surgeon will go for it! 

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

It's never ending Margaret Goss - although I think the media's noses are way out of joint this time round because it's become crystal clear just how biased - and therefore irrelevant - they really are!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

I said in January this was going to be worthy of Monthy Python style entertainment - and have not been disappointed yet Anna Banana Kruchten !

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Twas me, Tony Carla Muss-Jacobs, Principal Broker (503) 810-7192 - Go Big or Stay Home apparently is one of my unwanted mottoes when it comes to stuff like this.  Checked out the video - thanks for the link!

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

We cut the cord years back Beth Atalay - devoted now to Netflix, Amazon Prime, iTunes, Hulu commercial free, CBS All Access commercial free and SkyNews on AppleTV (rarely).  I see the highlights on the news websites on the Internet.

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

Wonderful post! I studied journalism and sure do miss the days when who, what, when, where, how and sometimes why were researched and reported in an objective manner. These days, it's hyper-sensationalism to the max, the reporters are celebrities, and every story is human interest. I just want the facts, darn it.

Posted by Kathryn Acciari, Brand Ambassador and Business Coach (Century 21 Real Estate) over 2 years ago

Agreed Kathryn Acciari - just the facts would be a welcome departure from what we are seeing these days...

Posted by Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers, Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ (BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty) over 2 years ago

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